vs. North Carolina 2/24/2024

10 responses to “vs. North Carolina 2/24/2024”

  1. This article is heat. How likely do you think it is that Gertrude transfers after Tony burned his redshirt and then hardly used him in favor of worse players?

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  2. Great article. I agree that Gertrude should have played more from the beginning. In my opinion, one of the most exciting things is seeing freshmen work through struggles and succeed on the court in meaningful moments. Look at the rest of the Division 1: Markus Burton of Notre Dame, Reed Sheppard of Kentucky, Josh Hubbard of Mississippi State, Carlton Carrington and Jaland Lowe of Pitt, etc. CTB doesn’t make it easy for first-years to succeed here and it hurts roster continuity.

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  3. I think there’s a little bit of backup QB syndrome with our Gertrude enthusiasm. I am in agreement that he ought to play regular minutes (and should have been all along), but it’s possible to scheme around a 6’3″ guard who can’t shoot and doesn’t pass well (his assist rate is by far the worst among our guards). Showing Bacot getting an open dunk and marveling at Gertrude’s near block is not exactly a ringing endorsement of his off ball awareness, either! He’s a useful piece, particularly in attacking when we need that. But I think you ought to note his limitations a bit more, to contextualize why Rohde has gotten so many more minutes (which you’ve generally acknowledged Rohde’s contributions more than most of the fanbase). Playing Gertrude isn’t a magic bullet — we still only scored 44 points, after all. And I don’t know how you play Gertrude with our big lineup effectively–that leaves Groves as the only shooter–so there’s some tension in your recommendations.

    I’m a little mystified by all the hand-wringing in the fanbase about the possibility of Gertrude transferring and/or TB’s unwillingness to play freshmen guards. Beeks, Kihei, Guy, and I-Mac all got *tons* of PT as freshmen, because they were more complete and/or addressed a huge hole in our roster. And I know we were all burned by Traudt and Shedrick, but those were the first 2 transfer outs that really hurt (and neither is having a monster year at their new schools, either). Maybe Gertrude leaves, but maybe he realizes how our program can develop him into a more complete player. I am confident Gertrude would be getting more PT if he shot like Reed Sheppard (or even if he passed like Beeks!). Freshman 4 stars sit at most top programs–it’s the reality of coaches wanting to get older teams on the court. Some force their coaches’ hands, but it’s pretty clear to me that Gertrude isn’t quite at that level. I don’t think we should be burying him on the bench, but 5-20 mins/game (depending on context) seems fine.

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    • Hey there, thanks for reading and the thoughts! The game is about to start but I’ll take some time to respond to this soon. I agree Gertrude isn’t a cure all, but I also think he’s a viable solution to a lot of problems who we’ve been staying away from unnecessarily. More to come!

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    • I think we saw against UNC how you can play Gertrude. His ability to get to the rim through sheer athleticism helps to negate for some of the spacing issues. But, I think tonight is a great example of it. Dante Harris was no threat to shoot on offense, got backed down in the post repeatedly, and was the only player on the team in negative BP/M at -7. Eli didn’t play, despite what he did against UNC. It sends a very strange message that you can turn to a kid for big minutes against a team like UNC but can’t turn to him even once against B.C. especially with his ability to guard and to get to the rim and with how badly Dante was struggling.

      Rohde actually played okay when not paired with Dunn or Harris. Hit a big three, had a few moments. It’s just the lack of willingness to see what you have in any given game with Eli and, on the flip side, the willingness to stick with things that haven’t been working so well.

      I think you’re not actually arguing against me here, because we agree he shouldn’t be buried on the bench and I’m also not saying you need to give him 20mpg. What I am saying is that it’s a mistake not to use him at all because you’re so locked into Dante Harris (and to lesser extents, Rohde and Murray).

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      • Yes, totally agree that playing Harris over Gertrude is a bit mystifying at this point – BC erased our lead when Harris was out there in crunch time (fortunately IMK and Groves restored the lead as soon as Harris sat). I think we’re mostly on the same page, just registering my sense that the fanbase generally might have overreacted to Gertrude on Saturday. Thanks for this site – it’s amazing work!

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  4. Yes, I think we’re on the same page – it’s a bit mystifying to play Harris over Gertrude right now! We lost the lead last night with Harris on the floor (though Buchanan’s D was mostly at fault for BC’s 7-0 run, I think), fortunately IMK & Groves restored it as soon as Harris sat. Love your site — thanks for all you put into it!

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